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Indians' Francona: Red Sox crossed the line in sign-stealing incident

Rick Osentoski / Reuters

The New York Yankees may not be the only team in the big leagues who were a victim of the Boston Red Sox using electronic devices to steal signs.

There are some members of the Cleveland Indians organization who feel the Red Sox did the same thing to them, Paul Hoynes of Cleveland.com reports.

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Members of the Indians supposedly became more concerned than usual about possible sign stealing from the Red Sox on Aug. 1 after Boston defeated them 12-10 with all 12 runs coming against some of Cleveland's top arms: Carlos Carrasco, Bryan Shaw, Andrew Miller, and Cody Allen.

While Allen didn't notice anything suspicious, he does believe the Red Sox were in the wrong when they used Apple watches to steal signs against the Yankees during an August series.

"Still, there is a little bit of a line there that you can't cross," Allen said. "Everybody is trying to get every advantage they can get by having a little baseball intellect and being able to pick up signs. You're all for that.

"But if you're using ways to do that, where everybody doesn't have the same advantage, that's the line you don't want to cross."

While there is no evidence showing the Red Sox used a similar tactic against the Indians, they're still under scrutiny after admitting their guilt against the Yankees following an investigation by Major League Baseball.

Indians manager and former Red Sox skipper Terry Francona isn't necessarily opposed to stealing signs, mentioning it's part of the game, but he believes the Red Sox took things too far by breaking a rule which forbids electronics being used to steal signs.

"We need to make them where we can get them and they can't," said Francona of stealing signs. "I think that's gamesmanship. I don't think you go into other areas (electronics). That's something we wouldn't do. In my mind, there's a line you don't cross. But it's different for everybody. Everybody wants to win."

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